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Discussion in 'vBulletin Discussions' started by Iconic, May 30, 2013.
Have you seen Mark Jean is the Project Manager for vBIV now? I just noticed on my Jira page.
This was posted a week or so ago- not as an announcement but as part of a topic where Paul was going to see if the VB4 "Hidden" JIRAs may be unhidden.
Wait, who was the previous project manager?
kevin sours is previous project manager for vb5c
Ah, okay. Well, perhaps he's moved on from vBulletin or something.
Kevin Sours is Lead Developer of VB5. He's still there, that is a different position than Project Manager, which is Mark Jean for VB5. He recently became project manager for VB4 too. Previously the VB4 project manager was Allen Lin.
Curios who'll be the next PM in 2 months... Kevin Sours? Joe? Or even another new guy without any community experiance?
I would suggest to find not again another alchemist, who's trying to make gold from poo without success!
And "lead developer" must be just a title @IB
If not, it's strange² that he's still there...
He must be related to some IB manager or know some BAAAAAD secrets about some IB manager.
Anything else wouldn't make sense...
What sort of leads does he do, Sales leads?
I think he means as in the first or primary developer....
not sales leads...
Unless this is sarcasm.
Got it in one!!
So it really has nothing to do with dog leads either?
btw @Brandon i would love to see a interview with kevin sours!
Oh yes! +1
I'd love to see any interview with anybody who has anything to say about vB5 or vBulletin in general. Bob Brisco, Joe Rosenblum, John McGanty, Mark Jean, Kevin Sours, Lawrence Cole. The only problem with this suggestion is, it would most likely be a futile effort. They don't even communicate well on vB.com, why should they do more communicating here? And, if you got them to answer at all, 90% of the questions would probably be answered with "no comment".
Um, but wait a second. Didn't Lawrence do an interview somewhere once?
Ah, yes. Google is great!
Maybe just ask questions to IB in general and see if they give you any statements at all?
Edit: Actually, scratch that. Send the interview questions to Bob directly. He is the most responsible, so he should be the one answering any questions. He can always delegate, if he can't answer himself.
or to the QA guy who's proud of his vB4 effort
based on vB4.0 quality EVERYBODY could have posted this...
enough bashing for today. see you in 1-2 months when the pissed vB client is back again
Allen became project manager of VB4 long after the initial launch. He has a lot to be proud of, he did take software a lot of people disliked and turned it into quality software that many thousands of sites now happily use.
my point is, that EVERYBODY (with an IQ > 50) could be "proud" if he would be the PM of vB4.
Reason: It was shit......
~97% of the files had 1-2 bugs/small mistakes which had bad side effects.
If you take a proper IDE and open vB4.0.0 you'll see it.
Most of the files will be marked red by the IDE (which means they have some errors.)
AFAIK i've created ~200 jira entries 148 jira entries http://tracker.vbulletin.com/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&requestId=10781
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=reporter = 122183 while my depressing vB4 tester phase before i left the vB world and ~4/5 where only stupid mistakes like using variables which aren't in the scope or which were just misspelled.
This means, even john doe, with 0 php experience, an IQ > 50 and some coding basics, would be able to fix them...... (that's why i mean that nobody should be proud and say loud that he was able to fix most of the vB4 bugs
i doubt that most of them are happy
fabians promises => not implemented
bugs fixed => some of them where fixed while many new where introduced with the new half baked features...
(and this one is really not sarcastic: i would be MORE THEN happy to have such employees, who're defending such a horrible company and product, but on the other side, i would ask myself what's wrong with them and why they don't have the balls to say the truth, but yea, we had this talk already in the past..)
i'm trying to stop the bashing and i'm really happy and proud that i'm doing it once all 1-2 months instead of 24/7 like in the past, so i'll leave it by this reply and get back in 1-2 months
Yeah, I'd be careful with the "happily use" statement. The vB4 customers are possibly generally satisfied, but not all are happy. A lot aren't. It took over 2 years to get vB4 to some sort of decent form and yes, Allen had orchestrated that short lived "normalcy" at IB. That he can be proud of.
I would be happy if they just fixed the editor to work properly with IE 10.
And I'd be happy, if they'd fix vB4, so it works with PHP 5.4.