Okay so here is one just for the vB fans. I'm not sure if anyone here is familiar with vB4 but I have had the *cough* "honour" *cough* of giving it a go. Apart from the inbuilt SEO.. There is nothing for it. So much so that the $200AUD I just paid for my new Lic, I downloaded and now use vB 3.8 What do you prefer? vB3 or vB4?