Development stopped until the trial is over?

Discussion in 'XenForo Discussions' started by lord_stone, Sep 19, 2012.

  1. Mark.B

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    Inspiration:

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  2. Riess

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    I dont think Mike has packed his stuff and left. If he left to find better job, its obvious he would not just work on new product that demands too much from somebody who is under knife. Instead he would resurface as new member in one of established new-media companies.


    Reading some of his posts on xF I can understand that he may be irritated with whole situation. Not only his work on xF was largerly unnoticed and there were tons of people who tought that xF = Kier and now there is multimilion corp destroying your profesional and personal life.


    If its true that they are working full-time in other places (and xF coma suggests thats happening) I wouldnt expect any feature releases in xF anytime soon... but I wouldnt fear of security issues. If one is found, it should be fixed in matter of hours - issues that take longer than this are signs of faulty application design, and they are building on proven platform (Zend Framework) which pretty much guarantees no such faults exist in xF code.


    Who thinks that? Software developer with years of experience in his trade or "chessy beans" that sometime ago questioned xF right to charge for their software on basis that they used free libraries in development?

    No matter if its Kier or Mike, both have enough experience and knowledge to maintain xF code solo and in their aftertime... but developing new features is little more complicated thing. They could change their approach and work on one feature at time, ship it to customers and switch to next one for new feature release. That would allow them to keep improving product despite limited time allowed for development... but it MAY be that court case is forbidding them from changing featureset because this may give IB basis to add new charges to their lawsuit and in result put case conclusion further away in time... something they have to avoid at all costs.
     
  3. Ramses

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    FACT: A fantasist believes that he knows all about this.
    I don't know what's going on behind the scene but if I would be in this position I'd stop development because of this reason:
    Don't want to risk having to hand over the software I developed to another company if losing the lawsuit.
     
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  4. Mark.B

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    By the same token, if they cared even one iota about the software, they wouldn't allow its reputsation to be dragged through the mud the way it has been for most of this year. :rolleyes:

    Feel free to believe they are secretly developing 1.2, or that they are so stressed that they cannot even manage a two line post in their own company forums. You'll just be disappointed.

    Kier seems to have no problems posting cheerfully about his forthcoming holidays on Facebook.
     
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  5. GTB

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    Thought they was so called penniless and struggling to pay court costs?
     
  6. David

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    Any screenshot or proof of that? :D
     
  7. fattony69

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    Does anyone ever consider that their lawyers have recommended that they are silent on everything in the possibility that anything they say can hurt them?
     
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  8. David

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    Yes and that's total rubbish.

    1. Why go silent all of a sudden on June 19th, 2012, after almost 2 years of non-silence.

    2. Why not create a post that says "Sorry but due to legal circumstances and with the advice of our lawyers we can not comment or discuss the court case". there is 0 reason to stop all activity like it hit a brick wall.

    3. It's more personal than the court case now. The evidence points to a certain event that happened in the personal lives of KAM in/around June 19th, 2012 that has caused deterioration in the business relationship of the 3, and it's now a headless monster with zero direction.
     
  9. Mark.B

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    No lawyer would EVER advise you to stop running your business like that.
     
  10. Mark.B

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    Spot on except the dates are wrong. The silence started way back in January. There was just a brief interlude in June which amounted to one post from Ashley, a second post from Kier which directly contradicted Ashley's, then a flurry of bugfix posts from Mike culminating in a minor maintenance and security release. Then, despite Kier saying he was back, and despite Jake constantly referring to this post as evidence that Kier is "back", they all vanished again and haven't been heard from since, except if you look in Facebook where Kier posts excitedly about his upcoming holiday.
     
  11. fattony69

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    If you ever read the thread about it, it got out of hand. It truly did. Especially with the legal fund and all of that. I know lawyers would say don't say anything. Even saying you can't say anything sparks activity that isn't productive to XenForo. Recently the demo system went down. Not that many people recognized, but it is back up. You can't say that there is 0 activity as they did do server stuff, security release, and this demo. So your facts are a bit off.

    If it doesn't come from their mouth, EVERYTHING IS SPECULATION.

    This is where you are off. They are selling scripts. Nothing is wrong with it besides no upgrades. There was a security fix. You can live without a few features here and there. Adding to the script can cause issue and may be in favor of vBulletin even if there wasn't any copyright issues.

    It has nothing to do with vBulletin, XenForo, etc. I don't think this is an issue.
     
  12. Lizard King

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    Unfortunately many people like Mark , David seems to be really obsessive with Xenforo.

    Now facebook accounts are being stalled , what is next Mark ? Jesus , don't you guys have your own lives ?
     
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  13. Joeychgo

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    Well, all the Xenforo-ites love to talk about how innocent KAM is, and how IB has no case.. If that is all true then why would their lawyers give such advice?
     
  14. Mark.B

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    If I can find his Facebook account, yes.
     
  15. Mark.B

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    Actually in truth I was sent a screenshot but it's absolutely genuine. I wouldn't make a very good stalker, I don't have the time.
     
  16. GTB

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    Who sent you a screen-shot?
     
  17. Mark.B

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    Confidential.

    Anyway I can't be bothered with this nonsense any more. I really, really couldn't care less what XenForo do.
    I wish the guys well, I don't like their business practices but as I am now effectively a FORMER customer it is of zero interest to me. I haven't visited the XenForo site since I was banned and have no intention of doing so ever again as I have no need of it.

    I am focusing 100% on my own site from hereon in and leaving all this drama behind, which means I'll have no need of any of these "admin" sites either.

    Good luck to everyone in all that you do.
     
  18. Lizard King

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    By the way Mark , Kier has no information regarding a vacation on his facebook account. I just wish you were posting facts. But many thing you post is complete rubbish
     
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  19. Peggy

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    I didn't find anything either. lol
     
  20. GTB

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    Well if Mark has a screen-shot, like he said he has. He should post it up to prove otherwise, failure to do so just makes it look like he's talking a load of horse manure when having some proof to back his claim up. I don't know, but Marks acting kinda strange of late since that XF ban?
     

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