Admin forum & Webmaster forum, the same thing?

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  1. Brandon

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    This debate was going on in another thread yesterday and I wanted to give it it's own thread.
    I feel an admin forum is the same thing as a webmaster forum.
    I don't feel those calling themselves "Admin Forums" cater to only forum owners, do you think if someone registered who only had a blog and was only interested in blogging, would be turned away?

    Do you think an admin forum is also a webmaster forum?

    What's in a name?
     
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  2. cpvr

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    You know what webmaster forums and admin forums are the same thing because as a webmaster, you're also an administrator - thus bringing in the admin topic. Sure, some webmaster forums are bigger than admin forums, but they're all in the same niche. Its just like shooting games to sports games, they're both in the gaming niche[no matter how you look at it]
     
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  3. Cerberus

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    My take on that is this. A webmaster is an older term used to describe a person who designs and build sites. But, as the times changed, a webmaster had to be responsible for also running the sites they build. If you want to go by the logic of the people who are going to argue this point, then a webmaster would be one who builds sites to sell them and not run them. And a admin would be someone who runs a site. But, I have yet to a site that calls themselves a webmaster site built just for making and selling sites. So, in this day and age they are the same. And I have always believed if you can not run/admin a site you should not own it. So, in closing if you own a site your an admin, regardless if you build them or not.

    So, if someone comes here and says I own a webmaster site, then that right there proves they know nothing about being a webmaster. So, why would anyone go to their site? They are obviously an admin since they own it and that is the experience they should be providing help with. But, I am just rambling LOL

    Of course they are the same thing.
     
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  4. cpvr

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    Seriuously though @Cerberus people these days like to twist things up. Administrators, moderators and everything else in that matter falls in the same place as a webmaster - at least in my opinion, because a moderator is also, helping the administrator/webmaster to work on things.
     
  5. karoshio

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    I just posted this on my own forum but I really wanted to share it.


    This is something that's really concerning me lately, more so in the new people around the website world.

    First off I not talking about the difference of the person being titled about that, more so about the forums and topics that are considered "Admin" topics and "Webmaster" topics.

    The term Admin Forum, majrotiy of the time refers to a forum made for Admin and Admin discussions. By this I mean discusions related to forums and owning forums.

    Do note that an "Admin Forum" does not always mean just for forum owners. An "Admin Forum" can be many other things such as System Administrators, Blog Owners, etc. I am simply stating the above from my experience as a webmaster and in the terms of what people get confused by most.

    The term Webmaster Forum refers to all aspects of owning a website be that a forum, blog or just a normal website. Webmaster Forums include everything about owning a website and do not generally target a certain type of website.




    A a lot of new website owners seem to think that an Admin Forum is the same as a Webmaster Forum are the same thing so I just wanted to clear up the basic differences.



    If you feel I've missed anything please share and I would love to know your thoughts on this matter.
     
  6. Brandon

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    It seems we already have this discussion going on somewhere.
    When I get on the pc I'll search for it.

    hmm.. it was hidden.. I think I moved it to edit it and forgot to move it back :p

    threads merged :)
     
  7. cpvr

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    There's really no true differences among the two - both forums talk about the same things.
     
  8. BJTheCoder

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    Actually, a webmaster is the same as an administrator, there is no difference between this two, but others i'll talk about.
    Now, karoshio who is an administrator? Is it not the same person as a webmaster, A blog owner is an admin.
    Do you say server webmasters or server administrators?
    I am currently working on a site, if I want i can call myself the admin, webmaster, the developer, I prefer developer though.

    Webmaster and administrator are the same but can be different from a designer/developer cause a webmaster and an administrator do not necessarily need to know how to code.

    The term webmaster is oldschool anyways, that's why developers of sites refer to themselves as developers not webmaster cause is necessarily not the father of all.
     
  9. karoshio

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    I edited my post after updating on my own forum.

    Read it properly, like seriously.... An Admin Forum and Webmaster Forum are clearly different. Admin Forums, the majority of them at based around forum and forum owning discussions... Webmaster Forums covers all aspects of owning a website in any for.

    An Admin Forum can be other thing but it being a Webmaster forum is stupid.




    Why do the forums cover completely different focuses then?



    Such as on my admin forum, this admin forum others there's "Managing Your Community" or similar. You won't find that on a Webmaster Forum because they don't direct their content towards forums.






    @BJTheCoder You're referring to the title of a person, not a forum niche.
     
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  10. Brandon

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    I don't see an "admin" as only a forum owner.
    While we do have topics that are geared towards forum owners, I would still call this forum a webmaster forum as well as an admin forum.
     
  11. BJTheCoder

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    Karoshio, I referred to the title cause its the root of it all.
    You didn't prove how they are different, you only proved the perspective from which people see it, your point is valid though. I go to a particular webmaster forum(judging with the contents, it can't be called an admin forum) sometimes and what they talk about is really different from what we have here.
     
  12. karoshio

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    Well my post was actually a separate thread so things may be slightly different. My original point is that a Webmaster forum TYPICALLY covers all aspects of running a website, be that absolutely any kind of website and an Admin Forum TYPICALLY covers running a forum.

    There's no issue including more than that in an Admin Forum but if you're focusing on all around topics and not forum owner topics then you may as well just call yourself a webmaster forum regardless of if admin can mean different things.


    I actually edited my post and forgot to edit it here which it is now.

    I changed/added the following as I wasn't making my point as clear as it should have been.

     
  13. dojo

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    Webmaster forums deal with ALL kinds of sites: forums, blogs, ecommerce sites, link directories etc.
    An admin forum is based on a sub-niche: forum administration. Which is webmastering, but doesn't have to deal with running a blog or an ecommerce site. That's the deal.
     
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    You hit that right on the nail: webmaster = everything you decide to run on the net such as websites & blogs, etc. admin = administration and running of forums
     
  15. cpvr

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    Ya, but an admin forums also welcomes webmasters - who deal with server side issues and things like that. Just because they're two different names doesn't mean they're so different. Heck, I know Digitalpoint and Sitepoint have a ton of content - but they don't have so much content on their "forum management" areas and that's because the "admin forums" on the web cover all those grounds, but that doesn't mean you won't see forum-related threads there. Same thing goes for the "admin forums", there's not so "very" unique content that you won't find on both type of sites.
     

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